{"id":2611,"date":"2013-11-14T19:07:51","date_gmt":"2013-11-15T00:07:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/?p=2611"},"modified":"2017-05-09T14:00:51","modified_gmt":"2017-05-09T18:00:51","slug":"a-very-special-poem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/2013\/11\/14\/a-very-special-poem\/","title":{"rendered":"A Letter from New York: Elzbieta Matynia introduces a very special poem by Gema Santamar\u00eda"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1>Interview with an Expert on Violence<\/h1>\n<h3>by\u00a0Elzbieta Matynia and\u00a0Gema Santamar\u00eda<\/h3>\n<p>In late September the Transregional Center for Democratic Studies arranged a talk by Anabel Hern\u00e1ndez, a Mexican journalist and courageous writer whose book,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Narcoland-Mexican-Lords-Their-Godfathers\/dp\/1781680736\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1383881215&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Narcoland%3A+The+Mexican+Drug+Lords+And+Their+Godfathers\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Narcoland: The Mexican Drug Lords And Their Godfathers<\/em><\/a>,<em>\u00a0<\/em>has just been published in English by Verso. I had heard about Hern\u00e1ndez and her work, but I thought a better person to moderate the evening would be our doctoral student in Sociology, Gema Santamar\u00eda, who works on problems of violence in Mexico. I had gotten to know Gema quite well during our 2009\u00a0<em>Democracy &amp; Diversity\u00a0<\/em>Institute in Wroclaw, where I taught a seminar called\u00a0<em>Romancing Violence.\u00a0<\/em>I knew that though born in Nicaragua she wanted to work on Mexico, where she grew up. I could see that she is a brilliant student and I learned that she is also an accomplished poet. So I thought that she and Anabel \u2013 who had not been at the New School before \u2014 would make a good team. We had a full house that night, and though some people had to stand on the sides of the Hirshon Suite, nobody moved. Anabel gave an engaging though disturbing presentation, analyzing the tight linkages between Mexico\u2019s political class and its drug economy. Gema was a graceful moderator, and when necessary an on-the-spot translator. After the lecture, some of us went on talking over supper at a nearby Thai joint. Gema pulled from her bag a piece of paper and said she had brought something for me. I glanced at the page, and asked whether I could read it aloud so that Anabel could hear it.<\/p>\n<p>I read Gema\u2019s poem:<\/p>\n<h3>Interview with an Expert on Violence<\/h3>\n<p>So, tell us,<br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: 13px;line-height: 19px\">what is the wound, what is its color,<br \/>\n<\/span>what is the color of the wound that follows<br \/>\nfrom the closed fist<br \/>\nfrom the closed anger<br \/>\nof the one against another<br \/>\nthe one that is a fire,<br \/>\nthe other that is an abyss,<br \/>\nthe other that will<br \/>\nfrom now on<br \/>\nbe known as \u201cthe victim.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>What is the fear, what is the rhythm,<br \/>\nwhat is the fear\u2019s rhythm<br \/>\nis the mouth bitter,<br \/>\nis the tongue drier<br \/>\nwhen the fear crawls like an injured<br \/>\nrabbit<br \/>\nlike a tense, intimate, trembling rabbit?<\/p>\n<p>And the eyes?<br \/>\nDo they close at the blow,<br \/>\ndo they stare at the blow,<br \/>\ndo they stare at the nightmare<br \/>\ndo they think in the caprice<br \/>\nof day and night<br \/>\nof darkness and light<br \/>\nwanting to escape it,<br \/>\nlike the dreamer that witnesses the dream and dreams of herself saying:<br \/>\n\u201cnow, open your eyes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And the knees?<br \/>\nIs it true that they lose control,<br \/>\nthat the bone is no longer a stone<br \/>\na stone that allows to stand up,<br \/>\nthat it fills up with water,<br \/>\nwith tender, bloody water,<br \/>\nuntil the legs go strayed,<br \/>\nmissing, disjointed,<br \/>\norgans-orphans,<br \/>\nthe liquid substance of cowardice.<\/p>\n<p>And the stomach?<br \/>\nHow long does it revolve,<br \/>\nHow long does it tremble,<br \/>\nhow long, until it becomes<br \/>\na long knot of nausea?<\/p>\n<p>And the sound of the scream?<br \/>\nThe sound that is born in the heat<br \/>\nof the knives,<br \/>\nin the heat of the face that faces the knives,<br \/>\nwhat does it say?<br \/>\ndoes it<br \/>\nsay?<\/p>\n<p>Tell us<\/p>\n<p>What is the smell of death?<br \/>\nWhat is the weight of death?<br \/>\nWhere do you write death?<br \/>\nWhere do you understand death?<\/p>\n<p>What is the name of your next article?<\/p>\n<p>Originally published on November 12th, 2013 by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.publicseminar.org\/2013\/11\/interview-with-an-expert-on-violence\/#.UoVcj3CshNc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Public Seminar<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/files\/2013\/11\/Gema_Santamaria.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-2615\" src=\"http:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/files\/2013\/11\/Gema_Santamaria-255x300.jpg\" alt=\"Gema_Santamaria\" width=\"255\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/files\/2013\/11\/Gema_Santamaria-255x300.jpg 255w, https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/files\/2013\/11\/Gema_Santamaria.jpg 849w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 255px) 100vw, 255px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Gema Santamar\u00eda<\/strong>\u00a0is a <em>Democracy &amp; Diversity<\/em>\u00a0Wroclaw 2009 alumna and a Ph.D. candidate in Sociology and Historical Studies\u00a0at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newschool.edu\/nssr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the New School for Social Research<\/a>. Her dissertation topic is on violence and extralegal justice in Mexico. She is a member of the Nicaraguan Association for Women Writers (ANIDE) and of the International Council of Gaceta Literal in Mexico.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Interview with an Expert on Violence by\u00a0Elzbieta Matynia and\u00a0Gema Santamar\u00eda In late September the Transregional Center for Democratic Studies arranged a talk by Anabel Hern\u00e1ndez, a Mexican journalist and courageous&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":100,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[50909,15608],"tags":[5250,18690,12935,42049,12941,10009,885,18145,18702,29471],"class_list":["post-2611","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fieldnotes","category-tcds-alumni-news","tag-alumni","tag-book-launch","tag-democracy-and-diversity","tag-letters-from-the-field","tag-new-york","tag-poetry","tag-the-new-school","tag-violence","tag-women","tag-wroclaw-2009"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/wpjson\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2611","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/wpjson\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/wpjson\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/wpjson\/wp\/v2\/users\/100"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/wpjson\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2611"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/wpjson\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2611\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4826,"href":"https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/wpjson\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2611\/revisions\/4826"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/wpjson\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2611"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/wpjson\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2611"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogs-test.newschool.edu\/tcds\/wpjson\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2611"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}